innocent blood like children is the tastiest for those holy shIt spirit jesus etc... yuck! Rule of thumb: read jesus as satan; read warlock as priest; read god as devil -- Well indeed religion is root for all EVIL
as a reformed christian this disgusts me. is there any counter to their insane zeal? is anyone doing anything to stop this senseless destruction of an entire generation?
I don't know how she does what she does while keeping a straight face; does she know how ridicu.. no, Evil she sounds? This is abusive, it's brainwashing, and it's disgusting. No benevolent God would allow acts like this committed in His name.
Even if they WERE right and there was a god who sympathized with the Evangelical movement, HE'd need a barf-bucket to watch this; and if he didn't need a bucket, then I wouldn't follow him even if he provided sufficient proof of his existance.
Jesus camp is SCARY. All this brainwashing. Science lessons from people who just plain don't care about science... this is insane. Any God who likes this doesn't DESERVE to be followed. The End.
Jesus camp is now one of the scariest movies I've ever seen. The only difference between Jesus Camp and a Hitler Jugend camp is that in the Jesus Camp they raise both their arms. It's time to find a cure for the mental illness that religion is..
I sit here and am torn between anger and tears. In some of these people I see myself 12 years ago, when I was a homeschooled brainwashed evangelical christnian. Looking at old pictures of myself, I even looked like some of these people. Coincidence?
I don't even know what to say... Really, I almost can't watch this... It is the scary to think that people are sending their kids to a place like that... I am in shock.
they are praying on the innocent children instilling their fucked up beliefs on kids that are not mature enough to understand they have a choice in what they want to believe. Disgusting! They are all fat nothing better to do then scare the kids shitless!
o_O .God damn... Man... They say they let people choose. But this... is forcing god into people. That sound like we're back to Hitler but with a fat ugly lady. Man... She need help.
That's gonna bring some really fucked up kid. I should have became a psychologist. I would have made a lot of money. But honestly... doesn't that look like Hitler/KKK/etc...? Soon, atheist wont be able to sit in the same bus than religious people.
I'm reaching the end of the movie and man... they are as fundamentalist as terrorists. Man... can't wait to see them die and find out that there's nothing after.
That shit strikes fear into my heart. How can people allow their children to be molded in such awful ways. I literally can't stand to watch it. I love how people like to say that's not my church, but being raised religiously I can say it's 90% "their church" 90% of the time. I'm glad I opened my eyes and got out before I was warped any further. My life is 100% better as an atheist.
When did we start "faithfully interpreting" the Constitution? I thought we swore these people in to UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION! NOT INTERPRET IT! Thank you Bush family. cunts.
Watch the signs and wonders.... images in the sky will be created by lasers bounced off the atmosphere via satellites paid for by ill gotten gains. try not to panic.
George bush sr. sells drugs to your children. America's economy depends on drug money, otherwise it would collapse.
people are dumb on purpose so they don't have to admit that they don't believe what they are being told. your heart cannot accept what your head rejects.
Hold on to your reasoning.
Am I taking this too seriously? This actually is kind of scaring me and making me sad. Not in any grand way -- I don't think this really has anything to do with the gulf war, but those poor kids! But then I had some of that shit forced down my throat, but so did some of my friends, and they didn't turn out as well -- frightened, depressive and paranoid. It just seems like we (the big we -- people) could do so much better than this crap.
This shows how truly evil religious nuts are.... Pure child abuse.If this was'nt real it'd be comical.What sane society lets paranoid,insane,loonies like this lot
loose on children?
Evolution In Reverse....
oh my are these people frightening. creationism, prayer in school being beneficial... why are these people taken seriously and rational thinking beings laughed at?
Disturbing in the extreme.
Although you'd think they'd get a clue about prayer effectiveness when, upon praying for the PowerPoint presentation not to crash, Jesus and Bill Gates no doubt smote them with the BSOD.
As crazy as this is, it's also pretty funny. They can't realize how ridiculous they look and sound. I feel sorry for all you people who live in the red states that deal with this shit.
It's funny how at the very beginning, she is talking about how adults are too fat and lazy to fast and yet, she weighs about 500 pounds. Also, it amazes me that she can't tell the difference between a lion and tiger.
I am genuinely shocked, I think this is one of the scariest things I've ever seen. A camp for child abuse, I'm sorry but there are no other words for it. Imagine if any other subject were inflicted on kids in this way, it would be stopped in a heart beat. These kids trust us.... This is so very wrong.
There should be a law against these religious groups!!!!!! This is child abuse there is no doubt about it.....children talking in tongues what bullshit....this is brainwashing 101
Well, I am not an Athiest, but am not religious either. I simply want to comment on this video and how utterly disgusting it is. These people are extremists and are very egotistical in thinking that only their way is right. They are apparently not interested in the sciences or anything other than JESUS. I don't think that was the message in the bible...to only think about God. I also don't think that children should be USED in this manner. It is child abuse and I see many "brainwashing" tactics here not "learning" as Becky put it. These children are not learning about respect or goodness, they are learning fear. They have no respect for people other than their own culture as seen in the way the little girl had such contempt in her voice towards the "dead churches", and people that didn't want to talk to her about God. She says they must already be Christian or are Muslim...like Muslims are so bad. I seriously hope this disease does not spread as we will all be in trouble...the religious and non religious alike. This seems like psychological warfare to me and a lot like something Hitler would have done. This brainwashing the children to be soldiers of God is very comparable to putting an AK47 in their hands and forcing them to fight a war that is not thier own. A war they believe in only because it was handed down through the generations. What these people apparently don't realize is that Christianity is a pretty new religion and civilation survived without it in such places as Egypt, Persia and assorted nomadic tribes. I don't think those people are in HELL. I don't even believe in hell, and if there is one it will be here on Earth if these children grow up to be the people their parents intended. Becky says that she can't go to Heavan worrying about whether she preached enough which contradicts the whole Heavan description. Isn't heavan supposed to be worry free? She says that people need to change but never exactly says why. The little boy with the long hair is such an excellent speaker and would do so much better without his parents. I think a foster home would be better for all of those children, and that is coming from a person that grew up in an abusive one. At least they will be able to use the brains they were born with and the logic we have as humans naturally...unless brainwashed of course. The little boy seems to think he knows what America needs but doens't even know what America is. He isn't even old enough to understand the reason behind the seperation of church and state. The reason this kid thinks he is right is because his parents tell him he is. What is up with the cardboard Bush? These people are sick and I am comparing them to a cult just like the Westboro Baptist Church sickos that picketed my husband's funeral. I hope I run into some of these people one day on a different level so I can debate with them.. Actually, why bother, they are already right.......I would just be lowering myself to their level and giving them the fuel they need to survive. Sorry for the long windedness but I was sooooo shocked.
My wife grew up attending a church that practiced many of these same things. She had to fake speaking in tounges to avoid being ostracized. She found out much later that her "friends" all did the same thing. They all grew up with such pressure that many of them don't even talk to their families anymore. It's really quite sad. I almost think it's a good thing that there are people like this lady out there. The more kids they push like this, the more will join our ranks.
Scary indeed. I see people so full of myth, so full of demagogery that they have tears on their eyes. Blind, unreasonble devotion lit by a woman who can only speak well and has the passion to spill blood of her "enemy." This is indoctrination, corruption of the youth in its very extreme.
For some reason, the scene that keeps replaying in my head is when the lady ask the kids something like,"who here believes that God is all powerful?", and the the camera cuts to a mother pushing her children's hands in the air. I think this exemplifies a huge part of why I never wanted any part of "religion". The whole "you'll believe what I tell you to believe" thing. It's sick!
I though that the moment when they all shouted "I am willing to die in the name of Jesus" as one of the scariest. A new generation of the "elitist" army of suicide bombers, but this time in the name of Christianity? As scary as that is, it might be true. Watch the next terrorist attack be say, on one of the Dubai skyscrapers, headed by that boy with long hair. I can see it quite clearly in my head now.........
Wow... major flashbacks! It's hard for me to think of myself as ever having been so brainwashed, but my adolescence was not too far removed from the lives of the kids in this film.
Thank god I'm now an atheist (and, yes, I'm being purposefully sarcastic).
I think the only thing in here I agree with is the fact that they hate Harry Potter. Oh, and in the very start of the movie, the audio clip of the guy saying "we need to take this country back, blah, blah, blah..." and sounds like he is giving a damn war speech. Makes me sick.
For one of my political science classes we sat down and watched "Triumph of the Will" to learn about Nazi state-sponsered propaganda techniques. I realize the Nazi video was about the return of the German state as a great power with Hitler as the True German Leader, but my goodness. Swap a few names, put the thing in English, and it's the same thing. Goebbels would be extremely proud of how this woman is conducting her business.
I've been there. I've been those kids. I've wept those clueless tears, forced out of my by strangers preying on my childish fears of abandonment, telling me I was separated by Christ and I'll have to fight like hell to get him to like me again so I can avoid a horrible life and a miserable eternity after that.
I was deceived by charlatans. The church, a very powerful and successful business where people are paid to shift around ideas that could never be reviewed or checked for effectiveness, is a cruel tool of manipulation, psychological programming and false confidence.
This world is treated as a battleground or a joke by people who have been told so many times that it must be true, "be in this world, not of it." "Live for God, lay up your treasures in heaven." The subtext there is that this world and its contents are irrelevant, disposable and to be despised.
They have a clever angle in that they can dumb down this indoctrination to the child's level, where most concepts needed to undo that malevolent brainwashing take years of adult level investigation and recovery. And by that time the victim is a spent, emotionally exhausted middle-ager stuck with a child, crushing debt and a spouse they don't love.
I actually agree with all this, Imagine how great our degenerate country would be if we all had such strong beliefs in something so divinely good, This movie is inspirational in my opinion, I mean, I'm an Atheist, but this video just kinda makes me understand that there really is only one way to believe.
It is just wicked to indoctrinate children like this. How can they be expected to make an informed decision about anything in their lives? I am disgusted by this parade of lies and abuse parading as love.
In the name of Jesus I pray....please give me the last hour and 25 minutes of my life back...I think I'll go watch Root of All Evil just to regain my sanity...
What are we, people who think, doing about this kind of situation?! This scared the shit out of me! If their main goal is to sway the votes in favor of evangelicalism, then I need to get on the first flight to Sweden!!
This is the scariest thing i have ever seen. I cannot believe that brainwashing children in such a manner is legal in the nation that is supposed to be looked up to by the rest of the world.
They are even preaching WAR(in the name of God)! "Whom of you want to be part of those who will give their life for Jesus!" and they preach destruction of the "evil" government who took Evangelicalism out of school.
This is wrong. Those people should be arrested for child abuse.
Those camps are psychotics factories. Look at this little Rachael girl! She has obvious symptoms. Mark my words, in twelve years top, you'll hear from her again. It will have something to do with grabbing a gun and slaying schoolmates... How can we end this madness?
Haggard got caught doing some dude last fall in a huge scandal. I just feel bad for every child who has been subjected to this torture. This is child abuse plain and simple. We should be raising our children to be rational beings not spiritual warriors. WTF!?
I'm a militant kind of atheist - I think the problem is simply that the bible does command people to act this way. It commands that we kill people who are gay, disrespectful to parents or work on saturdays. It really say's this. What we need to do is accept that the 'normal' christians are morally bankrupt for not following the specific commands in the bible.
That's so abhorrent! I won't even start on this. Where is America heading?
And the way they demonize the Harry Potter books... why should these children be deprived of enjoying the same things their peers do, like reading these kids' books?
I admit that I watch stuff like this for the same reason that people watch Jerry Springer or stare at accidents on the side of the road - it's horrifying and so far removed from what is considered normal that it's fascinating...but the cardboard Bush was seriously one of the funniest things I've EVER seen.
Christianity is litterally dividing the country---religion as a whole is dividing the country...these poor children...they're basically modern day christian nazis...
I have obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD), listen to that little girl tory when shes in the rain, the part when she says she need 10 raindrops to hit her, it reminds me so much of me when i was that young and had to deal with my ocd, its eerily similar infact. The part that saddens me is that after she makes that comment her mother shrugs it off by saying shes silly. If she does infact have it, and her mothers attitude is like that, she would be heading for a world of sadness and serious depression, and trust me god and jesus will not do jack shit to fix it. Hopefully im wrong, but if im not i hope someone in that family would get her the professional help that would be needed.
Robert I just discovered this other site on the net but can not watch the video or hear it right because it keeps breaking up and cutting out. I believe it is the memory of my computer. Blessed1
This movie takes me back to when I was a kid. I grew up in a fundamentalist church, and what really took me back was when that Fat lady said, "Boys and Girls sit up straight and all eyes on me!" I remember anyone who would preach they would tell us to to keep all attention on them which is key to brainwashing children. I got the chills it took me back. Thank science I am free Now!!! Anyway
Anyone who deliberately brainwashes children with religious dogma should be stopped. I wish we could start a freethinking school for children to teach them mere facts. Not irrational beliefs without proof.
These people are terrifying. I have spent a few months looking at old material on the rise of the national socialist party in Germany. The language is different but the style and the message was the exact same thing. I really hate bringing it up because people think of the Nazis as simple instant demons. This is however just exactly like what they were doing with their religion and Hitler Youth units.
Probably the sickest thing I've ever seen. Child abuse, there's no other word for it, in the name of God. She got it right when she said "The Devil goes after the young. Those who cannot think for themselves"
Hay I think It was a good move. It is good to see kids doing something they believe in, I like seeing kids going outside fighting for the evils of this world. it is more them what you all are doing siting at the computer eating bomboms. If you do do not understand something pray amd if you are riches and pray with an open heart god will tell you what is right.
Your kidding right Overcast? The whole point of this video is to show that Muslims aren't the only ones that have radicals in their faith. "God will tell you what is right"!? Those people who flew two planes into the twin towers thought "God" was telling them what was "right". They were fighting the "evils" of this world as well.
Try watching it again and tell me that children need to be "saved". If you truly believe that, then please, reexamine your beliefs system and ask yourself, "Am I a fundamentalist like Bin Laden?", because "evil" is subjective, especially when people are willing to "fight evil". Do we really need to enlist our kids into this type of war? Are we ready to indoctrinate our children into a religion that spouts violence and exclusion to those who view differently? Those are all rhetorical questions of course, my answer to those is, of course, no.
On a side note, Overcast, I am not sitting in front of my computer, eating bomboms (I'm not sure what those are, maybe they're an American thing) or other snack food. I am on this site because I BELIEVE that the human race is better off without religion. This movie is the prime reason I believe what I believe so very strongly. As a matter of fact, I go to school, I work, and I am active in the pursuit of that belief. To me fighting evil is more subtle than bombing those who don't agree with me. I'm taking the road less traveled, the difficult journey for which we have the right to take. I am trying to convince other people that, despite their religion, this world would be better off if religion stayed at home and the world was run SECULARLY.
Man, I can only watch this without the sound on x_x
Also: "Muslims train their 5-year olds to fast during the month of Ramadan?" Ha, you need the check the facts, lady. Young children (pre-teens), pregnant women and ill persons of any age are exempt from the fasting. And 5-year olds ARE young children, last I checked.
lol I hate Harry Potter too but well...yeah... Im one of those historical "death christians" who goes to death Church on sundays lol, who goes to church, which IS REALLY A CHURCH not just a room with chairs. And I was really surprised that no toleration was taught to those "CHRISTIANS". TOLERATION is a RULE No 1 to me. But of course what do I know. Im not from USA. I've never been there. Im from Estonia, which locates in Eastern Europe and we don't have this problem cause we seem to have more atheists and agnostics than christians."Thanks" to the rules of Soviet Union, which ended in 1991. But ACTUALLY , we have movements , which are still quite similar with this "eyes closed and trans worshipping" stuff. Actually I know many people from those churches. But We don't have that politics and religion mixture, Which I find negative. We have one christian party but it never makes to the government. I pretty much agree with that radio guy. Well thats it , I think LOL.
I'm going to quote the late great George Carlin on this... "THESE GUYS ARE FUCKING STUPID!!!" or "They're full of shit..." or better still... "THEY'RE FUCKING NUTS!!!"
"V, I, C, T, O, R, Y, that's the Trojan battle cry" Someone's going to have to tell them what happened to the Trojans. (Kind of makes me proud I'm from a Greek family now, for some bizarre reason...)
You want to be scared? Google Pinehaven Christian Church, I had to stay at that place for 2 1/2 years...15 years later I'm still fucked up...it was like this video except way worse and for 2 1/2 years...man...makes me so angry WHO GIVES YOU THE RIGHT?
After having watched this film a dozen times, one might think that the overwhelming dread and nausea would have subsided, but it hasn't. THIS is the reason that fear-mongering and theocratic oppression prevail in this country. These people will bring doomsday upon us, and we need to stop them.
Thank god I'm now an atheist (and, yes, I'm being purposefully sarcastic).
I was deceived by charlatans. The church, a very powerful and successful business where people are paid to shift around ideas that could never be reviewed or checked for effectiveness, is a cruel tool of manipulation, psychological programming and false confidence.
This world is treated as a battleground or a joke by people who have been told so many times that it must be true, "be in this world, not of it." "Live for God, lay up your treasures in heaven." The subtext there is that this world and its contents are irrelevant, disposable and to be despised.
They have a clever angle in that they can dumb down this indoctrination to the child's level, where most concepts needed to undo that malevolent brainwashing take years of adult level investigation and recovery. And by that time the victim is a spent, emotionally exhausted middle-ager stuck with a child, crushing debt and a spouse they don't love.
So the engine is fueled.
Geez...trying to eat, here.
They are even preaching WAR(in the name of God)! "Whom of you want to be part of those who will give their life for Jesus!" and they preach destruction of the "evil" government who took Evangelicalism out of school.
This is wrong. Those people should be arrested for child abuse.
And the way they demonize the Harry Potter books... why should these children be deprived of enjoying the same things their peers do, like reading these kids' books?
Anyone who deliberately brainwashes children with religious dogma should be stopped. I wish we could start a freethinking school for children to teach them mere facts. Not irrational beliefs without proof.
I wonder if she realized, for her sake, that gluttony is a sin.
"come into my trailer of jesus, my little children of god! and lock the door, to keep the devil out."
Try watching it again and tell me that children need to be "saved". If you truly believe that, then please, reexamine your beliefs system and ask yourself, "Am I a fundamentalist like Bin Laden?", because "evil" is subjective, especially when people are willing to "fight evil". Do we really need to enlist our kids into this type of war? Are we ready to indoctrinate our children into a religion that spouts violence and exclusion to those who view differently? Those are all rhetorical questions of course, my answer to those is, of course, no.
On a side note, Overcast, I am not sitting in front of my computer, eating bomboms (I'm not sure what those are, maybe they're an American thing) or other snack food. I am on this site because I BELIEVE that the human race is better off without religion. This movie is the prime reason I believe what I believe so very strongly. As a matter of fact, I go to school, I work, and I am active in the pursuit of that belief. To me fighting evil is more subtle than bombing those who don't agree with me. I'm taking the road less traveled, the difficult journey for which we have the right to take. I am trying to convince other people that, despite their religion, this world would be better off if religion stayed at home and the world was run SECULARLY.
/end of rant
Also: "Muslims train their 5-year olds to fast during the month of Ramadan?" Ha, you need the check the facts, lady. Young children (pre-teens), pregnant women and ill persons of any age are exempt from the fasting. And 5-year olds ARE young children, last I checked.
"THESE GUYS ARE FUCKING STUPID!!!"
or "They're full of shit..."
or better still... "THEY'RE FUCKING NUTS!!!"
Someone's going to have to tell them what happened to the Trojans.
(Kind of makes me proud I'm from a Greek family now, for some bizarre reason...)
Heh, I should try that.. Maybe our servers won't fail that often.
But honestly, this is really sad, I feel bad for the children.
FEED THE POOR IF YOU LOVE JESUS, LADY! Not brainwash the children of rich parents.
it is truly abuse.
proper shameful.
That Levi kid's got a pretty wicked mullet though, almost as good as mine!
they should care about something more important!
they're wasting their time.
BRAINWASHED!!!
poor kids